Revelation 20: A Preterist Commentary

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A Preterist Commentary on Revelation 20: Summary and Highlights

In this Preterist commentary on Revelation 20, compelling historical evidence is presented showing that the thousand year reign was literally one thousand years long and the Gog mentioned in this chapter is the literal, historical Gog of Turkey mentioned in Biblical history.  The Millennium is NOT an end time prophecy!   (See A Rebuttal of the Forty-Year Millennium.)  The Millennium began in A.D. 70 and is thus the first thousand years of the Messianic kingdom which is the New Covenant, the Age to Come and the New Jerusalem of Revelation 21 and 22.  During the thousand years after the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, Palestine—and especially Jerusalem–grew to become almost exclusively Christian.  Biblical Gog is in Turkey.  Interestingly, in A.D. 1071—ONE THOUSAND YEARS AFTER THE FALL OF JERUSALEM IN A.D. 70–the Turks (LITERAL GOG) conquered Palestine and incited the Crusades.  Furthermore, in literal fulfillment of Revelation 20:9 eyewitnesses to the First Crusade recorded Christians launching firebrands into Muslim-occupied Jerusalem literally fulfilling the fire from heaven mentioned in Revelation 20:9.   

according to preterism the crusades are the battle of gog and magog

The battle of Gog and Magog is the First Crusade which occurred 1000 years after the Jewish War with Rome.

The following may seem unbelievable.  However, all information is taken from unbiased historical records and is easily verifiable.  Sources listed at the end.

The Battle of Gog and Magog

Revelation 20 Preterist Commentary Intro: During the Thousand Years between the Jewish War and the Crusades, Israel became predominately Christian.

In Deuteronomy 28, God threatened His people with a multitude of curses if they failed to follow His law.  Every single curse listed in Deuteronomy 28 happened throughout the course of the Jewish War.1  Deuteronomy 28:63 promised that the Jewish people would be removed from Israel.  The same message is implied in the parable of the vinedressers (Mark 12).  In this parable there is vineyard representing Jerusalem and the son of the vineyard’s owner is Jesus who is killed outside of the vineyard (Mark 12:8).  Mark 12:9 then goes on to say that God, the owner of the vineyard, would kill the tenants, the adulterous Jews living in Jerusalem, and give the vineyard, Jerusalem, to others: “What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others.”  The others who are given the vineyard, Jerusalem, in Mark 12:9 obviously represent Christians.  This symbolic prediction did, in fact, occur literally and historically in post-war Jerusalem.

Interestingly, in the 1000 years after the Jewish War there was a dramatic shift in demographics in Judea.  Once populated almost exclusively by ethnic Jews, Judea was 95% Christian by A.D. 614.2  This was, in a large part, because of the expulsion of many Jews after the Jewish War and the second Jewish revolt, the Bar Kokhba Rebellion.  After the second Jewish revolt in order to eliminate the possibility of future insurrections, Hadrian ordered the exile of the remaining Jews in Judea.  After this war, few Jewish settlements remained with the exception of three areas in the Jordan valley.3  Jerusalem was then renamed Aelia Capitoline and racial Jews were not permitted to approach the city upon threat of execution—just as implied in Mark 12:9.4  At the end of the fourth century with Jews still only allowed in the city one day a year, Jerusalem became an exclusively Christian city, the only one in the country—as predicted in Mark 12:9 when the vineyard representing Jerusalem was given to others representing Christians.5

Revelation 20 Preterist Commentary Intro: During the Thousand Years between the Jewish War and the Crusades, Israel Enjoyed Unprecedented Peace.

During the thousand years between the Jewish War and the Crusades, Judea enjoyed relative peace.   This peace; only briefly interrupted by the Bar Kokhba Rebellion, the Sassanid invasion and occasional bouts of Roman persecution; continued until A.D. 313 when Emperor Constantine granted religious liberty.6  Then in A.D. 614, the Persians attacked Jerusalem.  After a twenty day siege, the city fell and thousands of Christians were killed.  Political control of the city was then turned over to the Jewish people before Christians finally reestablished control three years later.  In A.D. 638, Moslems negotiated the peaceful surrender of the city; and for the next three hundred years, Christianity flourished unmolested under Moslem rule.7

Revelation 20 Preterist Commentary Intro: In A.D. 1071, One Thousand Years After the Jewish War, the Seljuk Turks took control of Judea, Molested Christian Pilgrims and Incited the Crusades.

Then in A.D. 1071,8 one thousand years after the fall of Jerusalem, Satan was released from the Abyss, and the Seljuk Turks took control of Judea making travel dangerous for Christian pilgrims.  This angered Europeans and in 1095, Europe declared war on Jerusalem and thus began the Crusades—the Battle of Gog and Magog. It is interesting that during the thousand years in which Satan was bound, and the saints reigned with Christ, nowhere does it say that Christians would enjoy one thousand years of uninterrupted peace.  Isaiah predicts:

I will make your battlements of rubies, your gates of sparkling jewels, and all your walls of precious stones.  All your sons will be taught by the Lord, and great will be your children’s peace.  In righteousness you will be established: Tyranny will be far from you; and you will have nothing to fear.  Terror will be far removed; it will not come near you.  If anyone does attack you, it will not be my doing; whoever attacks you will surrender to you (Isaiah 54:12-15).

The important thing to note from the above quotation is that although God’s people were promised peace, this did not mean that it would never be attacked: “If anyone does attack you, it will not be my doing; whoever attacks you will surrender to you (Isaiah 54:15).”  Thus although Christians may have reigned gloriously in Judea throughout much of the thousand years between the Jewish War and the Crusades, this did not mean that they would never experience war or face occasional hardship.

1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.  2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.  3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended.  After that, he must be set free for a short time.9

A Realized Eschatological View and Commentary of Revelation 20:2-3: The Binding of Satan does not mean that there will be a literal Heaven on Earth.  Satan was bound several Times in Jewish History according to the Book of Jubilees.

The fact that Satan is bound does not necessarily mean that there will be a literal heaven on earth.  A similar binding of Satan is found in the Book of Jubilees.  In Jubilees 48:15, Satan was bound in order to allow the Jews to escape their Egyptian pursuers.  This book also lists several other points in Jewish history when Satan was bound; and as a result, the people enjoyed prosperity and peace (Jubilees 23:25-30; 40:9; 46:2).

A Preterist Interpretation and Commentary of Revelation 20:2-3: The Fact that Satan is Bound also does not mean that there will no longer be any Sin.  According to James 1:14, “Each One is Tempted when, by His Own Evil Desire, He is Dragged away and Enticed.”

When Satan reigned, God’s plan of redemption was impeded.  With the devil imprisoned, men now enjoy greater fellowship with God.  But the binding of Satan does not mean that the world would then be free of sin.  James 1:14 says, “[E]ach one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.”  According to this verse, it is humanity’s own evil desires, not necessarily Satan, that cause people to sin.  As an interesting side note, some people who have survived clinical death testify that living virtuously in the heaven is much easier when the cravings of the flesh have been removed.

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge.  And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God.  They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands.  They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.  5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)  This is the first resurrection.  6Blessed and holy are those who have a part in the first resurrection.  The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

Covenant Eschatology and Revelation 20:4-6 Commentary: The Thousand Year Reign of Christ over Heaven and Earth was Not an End Time Event. Instead, the Thousand Year Reign was the First Thousand Years of the New Covenant.

In v. 4, John introduces the Thousand-Year Reign.  If the Thousand-Year Reign is a literal thousand-year interval, as I believe it is, then it cannot be an end time prophecy since the events prophesied to occur at the end of the age were all expected to occur within the lifetime of Jesus’ contemporaries (Matthew 3:12; 10:23; 16:27-28; 23:36-37; 24:34;  Mark 8:38-9:1; Revelation 22:7). Thus the Thousand-Year Reign is not an end time prophecy, rather it is the first thousand years of the New Covenant, the new age predicted by Christ throughout his ministry.

The fact that the Thousand Year Reign is the first thousand years of the new covenant is implied by the fact that that the saints were to reign with Christ at this time according to v. 4.  This reign of the saints could only occur after the casting of Satan out of heaven as indicated in Revelation 12:7-11.10

After the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70, it was impossible to follow the Law of Moses.  Thus this event marked the end of the Old Covenant Age and the beginning of the New Covenant Age which is identified as the kingdom of God in the Gospels and the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21 and 22.  The fact that the Thousand-Year Reign might have begun in A.D. 70 is also supported by the fact that the Seljuk Turks conquered the Holy Land and began to molest Christian pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem in A.D. 1071—one thousand years after the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70!

In vs. 4-6, John describes the resurrection of the Body of Christ.  During the resurrection, the dead are given new spiritual bodies as stated in 1 Corinthians 15:35-54.  Many of these spiritual bodies take up residence in another dimension—heaven.  And it is here in heaven that the saints reign with Christ (Matthew 19:28; John 18:36; 1 Corinthians 6:2-3; Ephesians 1:20; 2:6; 2 Timothy 4:18; Revelation 3:21). The fact that the saints reign while in heaven is implied in Daniel 4:26: “The command to leave the stump of the tree with its roots means that your kingdom will be restored to you when you acknowledge that Heaven rules [emphasis mine].”  When the saints entered heaven at the resurrection, they, of course, could then be said to reign with Christ in fulfillment of v. 4 because “heaven rules.”  The Thousand-Year Reign, however, is not just in heaven.  During this time, Christ’s authority and the dominion of His people in heaven extends to the earth as well.  See How the Resurrection Bodies of the Saints Perfectly Mirror Jesus’ Resurrection Body after His Ascension Into Heaven Fulfilling Philippians 3:20-21 and ALL Other Bible Verses on the Resurrection!!! and Jeremiah 33:20-21 explains why Christ Rules From a Heavenly, Not Earthly, Throne.

Realized Eschatology and Revelation 20:4-6 Commentary: Christianity became the Dominant Religion in Rome and the Former Territory of Israel during the Thousand Years after the Jewish War.

Christianity grew to become the dominant religion of Rome.  Not only did Christian emperors succeed their pagan predecessors, Christian kings also ruled Judea, a country that during the thousand years between the Jewish War and the Crusades grew to become almost exclusively Christian.  This domination of the former Roman Empire including Judea as well by Christian people is the dominion promised the saints as predicted in vs. like Revelation 5:10: “You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” This trend of Christian domination of the bulk of the former Roman Empire continues today.  Furthermore, it is no coincidence that the Christian domination of the former land of Israel lasted exactly one thousand years until the start of the Crusades.  At this time, Muslim settlers gradually replaced the Christian inhabitants of the Holy Land.

7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle.  In number they are like the sand on the seashore.  9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves.  But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

Preterism, A Revelation 20:7-9 Commentary: The Wars after Satan’s Release . . .

One thousand years after the initial appearance of Christ during the parousia in A.D. 66 and the subsequent defeat of the devil at the end of the Jewish War, described in Revelation 19:11-20:3, Satan was once again set loose.11  Immediately after his release between 1063 and 1099, Jerusalem, the city God loves, was involved in five wars,12 the last being the First Crusade—the Battle of Gog and Magog.13

Preterism Explained, A Revelation 20:7-9 Commentary: Gog and Magog are in Turkey. The Seljuk Turks, Gog, Seized Control of the former Territory of Israel in A.D. 1071 causing the First Crusade.  Crusaders Launched Firebrands into Muslim-Occupied Jerusalem.  This “Fire from Heaven” Resulted in the Conquest of Jerusalem by the Crusaders.

 Preterists agree Gog and Magog are in Turkey. The Seljuk Turks, Gog,

Mesheck, Tubal and Magog is in Turkey, not Russia as is often mistakenly supposed.

 Gog and Magog are in Turkey. The Seljuk Turks, Gog,

The territory of the Seljuk Turks immediately after the First Crusade when Crusaders had taken back some territory in Turkey that had previously been controlled by the Seljuk Turks.

In Ezekiel 38:2, Gog is identified as the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, two cities in Turkey.  After converting to Islam, the Seljuk Turks conquered Turkey (including Magog, Meshech and Tubal) and took control of Jerusalem in A.D. 1071.  Their hostility to Christian pilgrims ignited a tidal wave in Europe causing the First Crusade in A.D. 1095.  Immediately before this battle, the Christian population was expelled from Jerusalem by their Muslim conquerors.14  With the city now left virtually devoid of Christians, the crusaders arrived at Jerusalem and launched flaming arrows and other firebrands into the city.  This “fire from heaven” is reminiscent of the fall of Sodom and Gomorrah and the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.15  Concerning the firebrands launched into the city of Jerusalem by the crusaders, Raymond d’ Aguiliers writes:

But when the machines were drawn near to the walls [of Jerusalem], they hurled not only stones and arrows, but also burning wood and straw.  The wood was dipped in pitch, wax, and sulfur; then straw and tow were fastened on by an iron band, and, when lighted, these firebrands were shot from the machines.  [They were] all bound together by an iron band, I say, so that wherever they fell, the whole mass held together and continued to burn.  Such missiles, burning as they shot upward, could not be resisted by swords or high walls; it was not even possible for the defenders to find safety down behind the walls.16

gig and magog: the Conquest of Jerusalem by the Crusaders.

The conquest of Jerusalem by the Crusaders in A.D. 1099. Signol, Emile. Taking of Jerusalem by the Crusaders. 1847.

In addition, archers fired flaming arrows into the city.  Raymond d’ Aguiliers also writes, “This shower of fire drove the defenders from the walls.”17  Eventually the crusaders entered the city and the Muslims and Jews therein were massacred.  The city was left virtually empty of people.18  Some of the inhabitants of Jerusalem were even killed by being cast into fire19 mirroring the punishment of Satan in the next verse. (For more details concerning the literal fulfillment of the Battle of Gog and Magog during the crusades see Ezekiel 38: A Preterist Commentary and Ezekiel 39: A Preterist Commentary.)

10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.  They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.  11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it.  Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.  12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened.  Another book was opened, which is the book of life.  The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.  13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.  14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire.  The lake of fire is the second death.  15If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

Revelation 20:11 A Literal Millennial Reign Preterist Commentary: The Destruction of Heaven and Earth . . .

Verse 11 says that the “[e]arth and sky fled from his [God’s] presence, and there was no place for them.” This verse depicts the destruction of heaven and earth.  This incidence of the destruction of heaven and earth in v. 11 may be the same one mentioned in Revelation 6:12-14 during the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 7020 since the New Jerusalem described in the following verses is a description of the Millennial Kingdom.  It is perhaps just as likely that heaven and earth were destroyed again 1000 years after the Jewish War since verses 1-7 mention a thousand year period after the binding of Satan in v. 2.  As stated above, Satan is bound during the aftermath of the Jewish war with Rome and released one thousand years later according to v. 7.  Therefore, this incidence of the destruction of heaven and earth could have occurred one thousand year after the binding of Satan around the time of the Jewish War.

Covenant Eschatology and Revelation 20:11 Commentary: The Destruction of Heaven and Earth is not a One-Time Event.

The destruction of heaven and earth is often understood to mean that God is going to destroy the whole world and rebuild a perfect one in its place, this not the case. Furthermore, the destruction of heaven and earth is not a unique event tied only to the Jewish War with Rome and the fulfillment of the Law as is occasionally supposed.  It may be surprising to note that according to the Bible heaven and earth had been destroyed several times in Old Testament history.  See The Destruction of Heaven and Earth and the New Heaven and Earth Explained!

Realized Eschatology and Revelation 20:5-6 and 12-13 Commentary: The First Resurrection was during the Jewish War, the Second was during the Crusades.

In vs. 12-13, John describes another resurrection.  The sea in v. 13 represents the Abyss also known as Sheol, death or Hades–the realm of the dead.  The fact that the sea, death and Hades give up the dead in v. 13 is a clear reference to the resurrection.  The resurrection mentioned in these verses could be either the first or second resurrection alluded to in v. 5.  As indicated in Revelation 11: A Preterist Commentary, the first resurrection occurred at the last trumpet.  See also Revelation 12: A Preterist Commentary.    This trumpet was blown at the siege of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.  One thousand years after the Jewish War, the Holy Land faced another major war or series of wars, the Crusades.   The second resurrection mentioned in v. 13 seems to have transpired one thousand years later at around the time of the Crusades in fulfillment of v. 5: “The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.”

Revelation 20:5-6 and 12-13 Commentary: The First Resurrection was during the Jewish War, the Second was during the Crusades.

Ricci, Sebastiano. The Resurrection. 1715-16.

In Revelation 21, John reveals the fate of the righteous.  Here he sees the New Jerusalem.  Could such a city exist right now?  In the next chapter, John’s vision of the New Jerusalem will be compared with several commonly reported near death experiences.

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Preterist Commentary on Revelation 20: Conclusion   

Revelation 20 is a stumbling block for many Preterists.  Preterist attempts to understand this chapter often result in questionable exegesis.  Partial Preterists will often assert that the thousand year reign is two thousand years and counting while Full Preterists often claim that this thousand year period is not literal and may only be a couple years long.  History confirms a more literal reading of these prophecies.  As emphasized in this Preterist commentary on Revelation 20, there literally was a thousand year reign of Christianity in Jerusalem before Islam became the dominant religion in the region.  Previous                                                                                                                                    Next

A Literal Millennial Reign Preterist Commentary on Revelation 20

  1. See Deuteronomy 28:15-68: A Preterist Commentary.
  2. Thomas A. Idinopulas, Jerusalem Blessed, Jerusalem Cursed: Jews, Christians, and Muslims in the Holy City from David’s Time to Our Own (Chicago: Ivan R. Deer, 1991), 102.
  3. M. Avi-Yonah, The Jews of Palestine: A Political History from the Bar Kokhba War to the Arab Conquest (New York: Schocken Books, 1976), 16.
  4. Teddy Kollek and Moshe Pearlman, Jerusalem: A History of Forty Centuries (New York: Random House, 1968), 140.
  5. Ibid., 149.
  6. Ibid., 201.
  7. Ibid., 152.
  8. Dan Bahat and Shalom Sabar, Jerusalem, Stone and Spirit: Three Thousand Years of History and Art (New York: Rizzoli International Publications, Inc., 1998), 108.
  9. As stated by Plato and Virgil according to Greco-Roman mythology, the departed who went to Hades were confined there for a thousand years after having paid ten times over for every sin they ever committed before they were finally absolved and released.[1]  What is Hades?  Hades is a Greek word for the underworld or afterlife. The authors of the New Testament, of course, also often called the realm of the departed Hades (Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27, 31; Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13, 14).  The ancient Greeks understood Hades to be partitioned into three parts one of which is called Tartarus. Tartarus is said to be a deep abyss that is used as a dungeon of torment similar to the abyss mentioned in v. 3.  Interestingly, Satan also appears to be confined to the Hadean abyss of Tartarus for a thousand years before he is released according to Revelation 20:1-3.  See Is the Casting of Satan into Hell a Mirror Opposite of Christ’s Ascension into Heaven?.
  10. I believe that Satan was cast from heaven to earth in A.D. 66 and was imprisoned in the Abyss in A.D. 79.  However, I believe that the Thousand-Year Reign probably began in A.D. 70.
  11. As stated in the body of the text, the possible binding of Satan in Mt. Vesuvius in A.D. 79 is recorded in Cassius Dio Roman History 66.22.  Approximately 1000 years after this binding, Mt. Vesuvius erupted again in A.D. 1073.  Could this be a sign of the release of Satan?
  12. Nick Ford, Jerusalem Under Muslim Rule in the Eleventh Century: Christian Pilgrims Under Islamic Government, first ed. (New York: The Rosen Publishing Group, Inc., 2004), 11.
  13. Nikolas Jaspert, The Crusades, trans. Phyllis G. Jestice (New York: Routledge, 2006), 45.  The symbolism of the earth representing Israel and the sea, the foreign nations is also found in Revelation 20:8.  The former kingdom of Israel was roughly rectangular; thus the four corners of the earth may represent the foreign nations beginning at Israel’s four corners.  These foreign/Gentile nations representing the Muslim Seljuk Turkish Empire were deceived by Satan in v. 8 to conquer Israel and prevent Christian pilgrimages.  This act incited the Crusades.
  14. Bahat and Shalom Sabar, Jerusalem, Stone and Spirit: Three Thousand Years of History and Art (New York: Rizzoli International Publications, Inc., 1998), 115.
  15. Jerusalem is called Sodom in this verse because she is also destroyed by fire from heaven as is implied in Revelation 8:7, 9:18, 11:5, 11:8 and 13:13.
  16. August. C. Krey, The First Crusade: The Accounts of Eyewitnesses and Participants (Princeton: 1921), cited in “ 5. Version of Raymond d’ Aguiliers” in http://www.ordotempli.org/seige_of_jerusalem.htm (12/27/2006).
  17. Ibid.
  18. Bahat and Shalom Sabar, Jerusalem, Stone and Spirit: Three Thousand Years of History and Art (New York: Rizzoli International Publications, Inc., 1998), 115.
  19. August. C. Krey, The First Crusade: The Accounts of Eyewitnesses and Participants (Princeton: 1921), cited in “ 5. Version of Raymond d’ Aguiliers” in http://www.ordotempli.org/seige_of_jerusalem.htm (12/27/2006).
  20. Many preterists believe that the destruction of heaven and earth mentioned in vs. 11-14 is the same destruction of heaven and earth that had occurred during the Jewish War.  Many of these preterists therefore believe that the 1000 year period mentioned in Revelation 20 is not literal.  They often cite other examples in the Bible in which the number one thousand is not used literally in order to bolster this idea.  The problem with this exegesis is that if the 1000 year interval in Revelation 20 is not literal, the chapter seems unintelligible.

14 thoughts on “Revelation 20: A Preterist Commentary

  1. James Rinkevich

    you might want to note that the Ark of the Covenant was in Jerusalem for 1000 years before Christ was born. Also the Temple itself had existed in some form for a 1000 years when the Romans burned it down. On 18 October 1009, Fatimid caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah actually damaged the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem in violation of a treaty which eventually set off the crusades. so your 1000 years is a bit short, esp. since the church is only from the fourth century. You may want to reconsider your 1000 years.

    1. danielmorais Post author

      James, I am not sure how the existence of the Temple or the Ark for a 1000 yrs has anything to do with Revelation 20–esp since after the destruction of the first temple by the Babylonians there existed a substantial amount of time in which there was no Temple. The Crusades were ultimately set off by the molestation of Christian pilgrims by the Seljuk Turks what happened before this (1009 A.D.) though perhaps contributing to European anger could not be the sole trigger that set off the Crusades. I do not know what you mean by the Church being “only from the 4th century.” The Christian church dates back to Christ. After the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70 the Mosaic Law ended and the New Covenant was firmly set in place. From this point on marks the start of the millennial kingdom. The millennial kingdom is the thousand year period in which Jerusalem grew to become a nearly exclusively Christian city. This Christianized Jerusalem is the earthly referent or refection of the New Jerusalem of Rev 21 and 22.

  2. donal

    There is a problem with your theory 70 AD – 1070 AD millennial kingdom. See Rev 20 mentioned about thrones (many throne) in heaven i will assumed that 24 elders (Rev 4:4) so if 12 of them represents 12 tribes of Israel and other 12 represents 12 apostle of Christ then your theory will be in problem because the last apostle didn’t die until very end of 1st century.

    I propose new theory that 1000 years kingdom started after the beast (allah 666) appear then tribulation started at 7th century. Millennial kingdom started in heaven when soul resurrect (Rev 20) and the earthly symbol is when Christian conquer Jerusalem at 1099 AD. We add that with 1000 years we got 2099 as due date. Christian start the earthly kingdom (symbol) and end when Israel control Jerusalem which both people are holy people of book Revelation.

    1. danielmorais Post author

      Donal I do not see this as a problem for my view. Recall that John sees a vision of heaven in Rev 4-5 in which he sees Jesus, teh slain lamb, open the sealed scrolls. This was an event that occurred just after Jesus’ ascension into heaven in Acts 1. Or in the very least sometime prior to A.D. 70 since the opening of teh seven seals all culminated in the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Thus it does not appear that the twenty four elders are the disciples since they are enthroned in A.D. 33. Even if teh twenty four elders are in part the 12 disciples this is still not a problem because the thrones mentioned in Revelation 20 need not refer to the 24 elders since Paul says that the saints as a whole will be enthroned to judge at the heavenly judgment. I cor 6:3 reads,

      “Don’t you realize that we ( the church at Corinth) will judge angels? So you should surely be able to resolve ordinary disputes in this life”

      These thrones seem to simply refer to the first century saints as a whole. There is no reason to assume that this is just the 24 elders.

  3. Alonzo Thompson

    It must be remembered that all prophets were fulfilled before AD 70. The 1000 yr reign cannot occur past AD 70. Thus the placing of the 1000 yr reign beyond AD 70 is excluded. The Old Covenant did not extend past AD 70.

    1. danielmorais Post author

      Alonzo, the thousand year reign is not the Old Covenant. This ended in A.D. 70, it is the first thousand years of the Messianic kingdom, the New Jerusalem. Here is a rhetorical question: Was the kingdom of God fulfilled by A.D. 70? Or did it not truly take hold after the destruction of the Temple?

  4. Mac

    I recently came across your site Adam. Some interesting reading.

    I don’t think that the 1000 year reign is literal – the 144k were drawn from the 12 tribes in the 1st century – John calls them firstfruits unto the lamb

    (Rev 14:4 KJV) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

    (James 1:18 KJV) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.

    James is addressing as “firstfruits” the believers among the 12 tribes:

    (James 1:1 KJV) James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

    (Rev 20:4 KJV) …. and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    The 144k ” lived and reigned with Christ a thousand year” – so how could the 144k live for a literal 1000 years?

    (Rev 7:14 KJV) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    I’ve been “Full Preterist” for around 2 years after battling with Don Preston’s book “Who is this Babylon” for a year and eventually losing to the guy 🙂

    1. danielmorais Post author

      Hi Mac, I believe the saints live and reign with Christ on earth and in heaven after the resurrection. It is in heaven that I believe they can be said to live as long as this thousand year interval: “I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.” Here one can see that this 1000 year reign is marked by the resurrection (to heaven). Regards!

    2. mike

      Yes Mac. I’ve read Don Preston’s book too …”who is this babylon’….excellent read. I’ve been a ‘full preterist for around 6 years. Preston really opened this up to me and others also but he seems well researched…THis site is interesting but I think Preston can dispell the literal thousand year reign. I know it does seem that daniel here on his site has researched also but i agree with you on this. and I would just encourage daniel to read some of prestons stuff. It would be great if all of us preterists can agree on this and finally destroy the crazy futurist stuff thats been going around scaring people for many years now

      1. danielmorais Post author

        Hi Mike, I have read many of Don Preston’s books and cite several of them throughout these commentaries. I have also read “Who is this Babylon” as well. Did you read my critique of the portion of this book that deals with the 40-year Millenium view? I critique his “most compelling” arguments in this page. Regards!

  5. Joshua Parker

    I am a bit confused with this article. Are you saying that the start of the crusades is what Rev 20:7-10 is referring? If so, are you not putting the Crusaders in the place of Gog and Magog? If I am reading it wrong, please correct me. Thanks.

    1. danielmorais Post author

      Hi Joshua, So the Seljuk Turks conquered Israel then as the Crusaders were closing in on Jerusalem, the Fatimids from Egypt took control of the city and sought terms for peace. This was rejected by the Crusaders and they besieged and took Jerusalem. I believe Gog is teh Muslim armies during the first crusade beginning initially with the Seljuks, not the crusaders who came later.

  6. Jim Wylder

    HISTORICAL PRETERISM
    THE INFERIOR TIME
    The English word usually translated “little” from the Greek in Revelation 20 vs. 3 has no definite article in front of it. It can equally be translated “inferior,” which put a whole new connotation on Satan’s release. Thus nothing is said of its duration. We have no indication of the time-duration after the Gog-Magog gathering with the Spirit coming down and consuming (Rev. 20:9b) the gathered nations, and the time when Satan being thrown down in the lake of fire. From post 1071 AD history, this time has been inferior to the previous mentioned 1000 years where Satan was bound; and the specified risen Saints reign with Christ; and as pointed out Jerusalem was primarily occupied by Christians, and not so occupied since.
    The time when Satan is thrown into the lake of fire, mankind is clueless. Nothing is said or prophesied of that event timing or events preceding it. Only the Father knows when the old earth is destroyed.
    However, the post-Nicaea Catholic Church when Emperor Constantine was shoring up the christian dialog to conform with a perceived righteous empire, verses after Revelation 20:9 but before Rev. 20:10 may have been eliminated. Or concealed in the bowels of the Vatican. An anathema if true.
    From the crusades to the current Islamic terror, the time has indeed been inferior.

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